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Paul Kelley's avatar

Side note: in astrology, Neptune is the planetary principle we associate with illusions and delusion. The timing of this article is therefore appropriate, since the planet Mercury, which is the thinking mind is approaching at the beginning of Aries.

Mat Poehler's avatar

interesting... is there a zodiac sign more closely aligned with mental illness. I'm just curious. I suppose I'm wondering if there is an association of bipolar illness with a particular season. I think I have heard that there was some correlation.

Paul Kelley's avatar

It's more planets that are the actors than signs. People usually mean Sun signs when saying signs, but the Moon and planets are also in signs, so you're going to look to planets and how they act in a sign first But, I would say each sign can have its own way of expressing mental illness..Pisces is very 'porous,' so that would be a natural sign for delusions, but it depends on what is there and how it relates to the rest of the things in the chart. Sagittarius can be prone to excess, Cancer to protective emotional reactivity, Scorpio to finding sinister things under the surface...Capricorns can be prone to depression but are the most likely to just work their way through anything hard, Aries is going to be impulsive...every chart has to be read in the context of all the pieces. The signs are seasonal, which you know from reading my articles, but I would look at the whole chart rather than making a single prouncement about particular seasonal groups of signs. There are those doing empirical research on disease signatures, but I don't know of any specifically on delusions and mental illness.

Mat Poehler's avatar

cool, good to know. I'm Aries and I can be very impulsive :)

Paul Kelley's avatar

I appreciate your sharing firsthand experiences of these phenomena. I'm wondering if something akin to this is happening when I have one of those dreams where details feel so incredibly important and profound that as I awaken, I am trying to memorize them.

Mat Poehler's avatar

Yeah, dreams are crazy things. I can relate to that feeling that they are profound and important. It is more when I am ill that I recognize their significance. I can remember ruminating on a dramatic dream for days at a time.

Janice Airhart's avatar

Interesting that delusions can result from overabundance of dopamine. Too bad you can't just drain it :-). I'm curious about how antipsychotics affect the dopamine levels.

Mat Poehler's avatar

This is what I found from the Cleveland Clinic:

"Yes, Zyprexa (olanzapine) blocks dopamine by acting as an antagonist at dopamine D2, D3, and D4 receptors in the brain. As a second-generation (atypical) antipsychotic, it reduces high levels of dopamine to improve symptoms of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder while also binding to serotonin receptors to modulate mood."

It really just blows my mind that somehow science found this chemical... this medicine called Zyprexa that regulates my brain so well.

Paul Kelley's avatar

I was on a low dose of that for anxiety. It did help, though I gained weight, which pissed me off because I had to buy new pants! I don't know if I gained weight because of the drug or because the psychiatrist at the university health clinic said I might because it often increases appetite, and so I felt free to eat more lol

Mat Poehler's avatar

It's crazy what Zyprexa will do to an appetite. I think it messes with your blood sugar so you crave food, when you really don't need.

Janice Airhart's avatar

It sounds fairly simple, but I know it's not. Thanks for the information.